tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342588263086244213.post8797574470549521046..comments2023-10-04T02:52:22.941-07:00Comments on Iron Soul: SDA Creationism gets Wider NoticeIron Soulhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06753602185907947519noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342588263086244213.post-52887630159871556332009-09-12T20:50:22.238-07:002009-09-12T20:50:22.238-07:00Yeah I was perpetualstudent over there as well. I ...Yeah I was perpetualstudent over there as well. I am still officially an Adventist, whatever that means. Ironically enough I went to an evangelistic meeting last night and I finally realized that I really don't believe much of what the church teaches anymore. I am not ready to call myself an athiest, although I love reading Pharyngula (PZ Myers) and Dawkins. I guess the best description is Thiest-Biased Seventh Day Agnostic. <br /><br />The transition to accepting the scientific consensus happened later for me than some. It was a couple of years into grad school. I credit Jonathan Wells and his truly awful book, "Icons of Evolution" for my "conversion." I started to notice that all the creationist arguments were based on faulty assumptions and at least 30 years old. As you know, a lot can happen to a field in 30 years. <br /><br />By the way, what are you up to now? I have been working at Intel for the last 3 years. I guess you used to work there.perpetualstudenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06985042942498783194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342588263086244213.post-89850510817316000122009-09-12T14:57:35.691-07:002009-09-12T14:57:35.691-07:00Hi, Michael! This is Jim Edwards.
I was posting a...Hi, Michael! This is Jim Edwards.<br /><br />I was posting as "Be Honest" over on the educatetruth site. (I eventually decided it simply wasn't worth the wasted time and stopped.) I presume you were posting under the same name over there as you are here?<br /><br />I'm delighted to hear that you, too, respect the scientific method and empirical evidence enough to accept the plain truth (rather than mere tradition)--i.e. that the Earth is clearly ancient, etc.<br /><br />Atheist or not, I'm happy to see another (ex?)SDA see the scientific light.Revertedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13622623240906597968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342588263086244213.post-87959717064395818062009-09-11T15:51:42.157-07:002009-09-11T15:51:42.157-07:00Hey I ran across your comment on Pharyngula (one o...Hey I ran across your comment on Pharyngula (one of my favorite blogs) and I had to check out your blog since I am an Engineer who also went to Walla Walla. <br /><br />Hey Jeff! Michael Peterson here. I will admit that I haven't joined the "dark" side yet, although I may be only a few years behind you (only time will tell.) However if I listened to those on the educatetruth site, I guess I should become an athiest. According to them, you can't accept the conclusions of science and remain a Christian. <br /><br />I find it interesting that every ten years or so the church has to have a witch hunt. We lived through it at Walla Walla and now it is La Sierra's turn. This is an issue that I have been monitoring closely. Is there room in the SDA church for people like me? I talked to my pastor about it once and he said there was room for diversity and then spent the next two weeks trying to convert me to YEC. I found it some what ironic and I got the same response from a post on the educatetruth site.<br /><br />Anyway I hope all is well.perpetualstudenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06985042942498783194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7342588263086244213.post-59041617849893225502009-09-03T08:42:15.003-07:002009-09-03T08:42:15.003-07:00If you want even more exhaustive coverage of the i...If you want even more exhaustive coverage of the issue, check out the <a href="http://spectrummagazine.org/blog/2009/05/29/unravaling_witch_hunt_la_sierra_under_seige" rel="nofollow">Spectrum Magazine blog</a>. The controversy was at its hottest back in May/June, which is when Spectrum covered it. I don't know how much progress has been made since then.<br /><br />Changing subjects: There is a new <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Book-Genesis-Illustrated-R-Crumb/dp/0393061027/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1251991205&sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">comic-book version of Genesis</a> that I think you'd really like. It doesn't leave any of the stories out, and it actually has a warning on the cover about adult supervision. It's going on my list. <a href="http://www.bookforum.com/inprint/016_03/4342" rel="nofollow">Here's a review</a> of it, though it is very slow since it was linked by aldaily.com.tkhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03396789090773395823noreply@blogger.com